Why can't the Australian people and the Independents also be privy to the contents of a brief that could fundamentally change their lives?
The idea of Robb - a member of the Opposition - suddenly arguing against full government disclosure is somewhat quaint in itself.
I've never heard that one before. The "Red Book" should be kept under wraps because, to quote him "it contains frank and fearless advice on the economic outlook".
Wouldn't we like to see that. Where does all this belligerence leave Abbott:
1. Firstly he's seen as still being fuelled by campaign aggression the election outcome requires calm.
2. Second he's seen as shifty on the issue of the Coalition costings.
3. Most importantly, in one foul swoop, he has tainted his relationship with the independents.
The latter is not a good look for someone potentially relying on those same independents to support the Coalition. Above all it has left Abbott looking like he's still an Opposition Leader..... Not a Prime Minister in waiting.
All we need to know is that Abbott's behavior has left Labor "flabbergasted".
Why is he behaving like this, are their figures so bad they don't dare show them to Treasury, let alone show them to the voters. Abbott has given Julia Gillard hope, he has shown the Coalition to be untrustworthy.
He's clearly got it all wrong. From here on Tony, just say "yes".
Unless he really wants another election, that way he will never have to show us the figures.
Please sir we don't want to be rude, don't take it the wrong way.
Please Mr BHP could you see your way clear to perhaps give us a little more tax money, please, please. We don't want to upset you mister but we just think you might feel kind today because of your profit.
I know your really poor, just a little our way please, we'll make it up to you some how, please mister?
We won't ask for any more we promise.
We know we're not special, just the citizens of Australia but we need roads and hospitals, please sir we only want what we're entitled to sir.
Abbott reminds us again, again and again that a figure was leaked by Treasury(the leak may have come from themselves a month ago) which gave them a reason not to submit their policies.
Surely now that all the votes are almost cast we, the people, are allowed to see the balance sheets without all this repeated crap about an old leak.
Like any leak, once we've had one all we feel is relief, maybe Tony likes to remember his leaks over and over because he is always talking about the past leaks. Tony has a problem discussing the here and now, not to mention the future.
No Tony the band on Bob Katter's hat is not Broadband, sorry mate wrong again.
Tell us the real reason for not submitting your policies, why aren't we allowed to see the real costs. I know you'll feel a lot better when you tell us.
The Australian Treasury and the Department of Finance are the people who run the financial systems within Australia and yet they are not competent to asses the Coalition's policy costings.............??
An almost unknown accounting firm from Western Australia is more competent.
Does that mean that we can use them to advise government on interest rates also, because they are so competent, does it mean that they will be setting their own accounting rules. Setting pension rates etc.
Of course not private accounting firms never will be, it's not what they are trained to do.
Who does set the rules for accounting, who runs the finances of the country, Finance and Treasury of course.
The Coalition while in government swore by their integrity.
Why won't they allow us the people(independents included) to see the real costs of their policies.
The only conclusion the average voter can reach is that there is something shonky about their costing claims.
Should they be elected to run the government, as sure as night follows day they will say that there is a great big black hole in the budget, therefore they will not be able to carry out their policies
Why will they claim this, because their promises were never able to be delivered and they have known it all along.
Labour are happy to have their policy costings released. Why don't they?
If Treasury is so untrustworthy how will they ever be able to govern if elected. Treasury will have to be replaced by private accounting firms, maybe from the Miners or Woolies or Coles.
In a speech to the Lowy Institute he said “it would be a poor reflection on our defence capabilities” if Australia was unable to help replace the withdrawing Dutch.
“If satisfied that the role made strategic sense and was compatible with our other military commitments, a Coalition would be prepared to consider doing more,” he said.
He clarified that if this included replacing the Dutch as the lead coalition military force in Oruzgun, Australia should take up the opportunity if it was able.
“If we could do it, I don't see why we shouldn't.
All the above was repeated during campaign, he was setting himself up as the future PM
"Taking advantage of a Soldiers Death"
Amazing how he can keep a straight face while lying
TONY Abbott has backed away from his willingness to bolster Australia's troop commitment in Afghanistan and welcomed parliamentary debate on the conflict.
At a media conference today on the death of another Digger, the Coalition leader said the current commitment of 1550 troops in Afghanistan was “right”, despite previously canvassing a larger role in previous speech in April.
Australia has been bowled a googly and has been hit in the groin, 6 unknown Independent bowlers were seen lurking in the outfield near the boundary and when they entered the fray, the way they delivered the ball astounded most commentators.
They were already starting to call this contest all over bar the shouting, out of the gloom the unknowns were given the ball and this changed the whole game, one after another they performed.
With the outfield being patrolled be the Greens making sure that nothing untoward slips through the Senate. Now even the commentators are confused.
Now that the series is being seen as a possible draw these so called unknown players have become legends, they have everyone by the short and curlies. Everyone is wondering if they have what it takes to continue bowling at areas that are so affective, such as in the groin.
Meanwhile the team captains have been seen massaging their own groins in anticipation of more pain being inflicted. They are both well aware that they are facing an unprecedented bowling attack, the question is are the captains up to it.
Dealing with talented rebels is not easy.
Rumour has it that the captains may be so frightened that they will form a Labour/Liberal coalition. This would allow the Liberals to dump their National party hangers on once and for all and Labour could have a clean up.
The new Labour/Liberal coalition would not have to worry about Independents or Greens ever again, it would be lovely and peaceful for them forever.
This is what we are going to be given by the Coalition if they form government.
Their generousity is amazing if your a miner($10 billion Xmas present)
Here are just some things to look forward to.
1. No extra doctors to be trained 2. No extra nurses to be trained 3. No trade training schools 4. Yes Extra hospital beds (without nurses) 5. No extra money for schools 6. No computers for school students 7. No broadband 8. No tax on miners (most profitable in the world) 9. No change to Telstra (stays a monopoly) 10. No real climate change policy (don't believe in it) 11.Yes Parental leave some children worth 5 times more than others or worth 5 years worth of the pension for older Australians. 12. Yes stop the boats somehow
This election has been the most embarrassing I have ever seen we have had a pathetic campaign by both parties neither party has shown us anything new.
Labour hasn't even been game to talk about it's achievements because they couldn't acknowledge that Kevin Rudd had done a great job during the financial crisis, and that the few mistakes made was caused by the massive size of the projects. Projects that were crucial to Australia avoiding the recession.
The Coalition on the other hand ran a totally negative campaign based on creating fear in the population. They may indeed win this election using fear as the main denominator. Fear has been used to such an extent that every overseas student seen on our streets is considered a terorist or an illegal refugee.
Both parties have fostered this fear and are both racing to the bottom in this so called debate.
In Canberra we must be over run with illegals because with all the people from the embassies of the world who may look a little different to us living here we must be completely overwhelmed by illegals or terrorists. Not to mention the students at our university. I have seen it happen, a sad day for Australians.
The world looks on with dismay at what we call a problem, the countries of the world take in many thousands of refugees every year while we take in a pittance in comparison.
Why don't we approach the problem from the right end, many of the home countries of these refugees do not even have an Australian consulate where they could apply for refugee status. Surely this should be our first step establish consulates.
Do you think that they would rather pay $16,000 to a people smuggler or pay $2,000 for a flight, of course not, it is because they have no option. They have to get here to apply, as they say we should cut them of at the pass and its cheaper.
It’s hard to overstate just how badly the Coalition had handled the costings issue. Forget about the theatre about the Charter for Budget Honesty, a piece of legislation that has rightly been torn up and discarded by both parties.
Having having a “mid-tier” accounting firm (as one Financial journalist generously described it) sign off on the costings.
Ignoring the smearing of that firm by some who suggest that having an old link to a Liberal Party somehow means they can’t, or won’t, add up correctly.
But at every stage the Liberals have acted like they have something to hide on Budget savings, and Tony Abbott has run a mile from the issue. He handballed it to Joe Hockey in May, and Hockey handballed it to Robb, who effortlessly eclipses Hockey every time the two are in the same room, has had the issue ever since. Yesterday, in a much-delayed press conference that barely allowed the commercial networks time to put together coverage.
The final package was unveiled and, not to put too fine a point on it, it was rubbish.
Swapping risk for marginal political gain: for the sake of boasting now that it will have a slightly higher surplus in the future, the Coalition increases the risk of a budget blow-out once it is in government. That’s worth over $2.5b.
The Coalition proposes a significant expansion of the Public Service to undertake its own programs, including hundreds of extra Customs, hospital board and Crime Commission staff, a new “Broadband Commission”, a new Ombudsman, new ministerial committees that need to be serviced — a conservative calculation is that the Coalition will need to immediately employ an extra 1000 public servants to implement its programs.
These are not costed at all, their estimates of surpluses and getting a balanced budget are whimsical, nothing but something expelled from the rear of a male animal which is sometimes referred to as bull.